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  • in reply to: Outboard motors and brackets #16715
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    TEMO-40 Electric Paddle
    Winner of the 2021 DAME award, the TEMO-450 electric scull is waterproof (IP67), telescopic (130 to 170 cm) propulsion unit that weighs only 500 kg and attaches to the gunwale with a rowlock accessory. It has a 400-watt motor with 200 watts output and battery life is 42 mins on full power or 80+ mins on 1/2 power. Sold with a cover for easy transport.

    Video: Oliver Bricout

    The Temo attaches to the Weta with a swivelling Oarlock (supplied) which bolts to the gunwale.

    It’s too long to fit inside the hatch but it comes with a waterproof case and, according to Oliver, it’s easy to store in the cockpit inside the case while sailing.

    Available in Europe, the USA and Australia. More information at https://www.temofrance.com/

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    Brackets
    These are options I have seen for brackets:
    1. Using a bar (wood or metal) across the stern clamped from gunwale to gunwale with the outboard mounted on a block at the side.

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    2. Stern Bracket
    Using a metal bracket mounted on the stern which has been reinforced from the inside using a plate inserted by adding an inspection port on the cockpit side.

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    3. Hinged Bracket
    Using a hinged bracket attached to a piece of wood inserted into a slot in the stern and then glassed in place – also requiring an inspection port on the cockpit side. Presumably also requiring an inspection port on the cockpit wall to give access inside the hull. The hinge allows the bracket to raise the outboard clear of the water.

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    4. Bolt on bracket

    Designed by José Carlos Sánchez for his solo cruising adaption.

    I designed this one because it only needs to drill one hole on the Weta´s fiberglass. It can be installed in less than a minute, does not interfere with sailing and does not load the boat too far back. Wood is not a single block, it covers an internal steel frame.

    It is worth considering to install an electric outboard if your local conditions allow it. It will reduce pollution and you will not suffer noise and gasoline smell.

    Summary

    All methods will work although the a bar is easier to fit/remove, can be stowed out of the way when sailing and doesn’t require any holes in the cockpit side. It also means that the outboard is out of the way in most sailing positions if the outboard is not removed while sailing.

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    in reply to: Outboard motors and brackets #16701
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    Outboards
    Probably the most important aspect of using an outboard on a Weta is the weight of the engine and where it can be distributed to have least impact on your sailing experience. Having extra weight on the stern is slow in light winds but of course you can counter that with your body weight.

    Then there’s the issue of stowing the engine when it’s not in use. The below deck storage compartment has benefits in that the weight of the outboard is then in the centre of the boat and near the water line. However the compartment below deck is not very deep so careful measurement of the engine and compartment is recommended before purchase, if you plan to stow it below.

    The standard 6″ hatch is too small for any outboard but Kayak hatches offer various shapes and sizes which can be latched shut securely. The hatch in front of the daggerboard must seal closed because the storage compartment below deck provides buoyancy in a capsize – the boat may not be righted if this is compromised.

    If you are storing a petrol outboard below deck you may need to carry an additional fire extinguisher above deck, depending on your local marine regulations.

    Lying the outboard in the cockpit is an option but it may get in the way when tacking and is liable to catch on ropes.

    Engine options include:

    1. Electric paddle

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    The electric paddle is different from a trolling motor in that it’s designed for propelling small boats rather than just moving quietly after fish. It has a brushless electric motor which outputs 30Wats of power, but unlike a trolling motor, it uses a “model aeroplane” type propeller which is much more efficient for continuous propulsion.

    One Weta owner reports: “The EP can move the Weta on calm waters with little to no wind in the 2.8 to 3.0 knot range if you have the main and jib up. Bare pole only the speed drops a couple tenths. The apparent wind created by the propulsion of the EP helps generate the additional speed. Throttling back to the mid-range setting drops the speed by .3 kts so not much of penalty, considering the gain in range. I have yet to run the NIMH battery down to empty and would guess that the furthest I have run on a charge if 4 to 5 miles.”

    The manufacturer claims the range is as follows

    • Almost 2 hours at High speed
      (about 2.5-3.5 mph on many small boats)
    • Up to 4 hours at Medium speed
    • Up to 5 hours at Low speed

    Weight:

    The motor and battery together weigh less than 16 lbs.
    • Motor weighs 7.6 lbs.
    • NiMH Battery pack weighs 8.1 lb.
    • Smart Charger weighs 1.28 lbs.

    Size:

    • Motor envelope sizes
      Short shaft: 7” dia. x 38.5” long
      Long shaft: 7” dia. x 43.5” long
      Mini shaft: 7” dia. X 33.5” long
    • Waterproof battery comes in a floating bag 9” x 7” x 6”.
    • Smart Charger fits into a 6” x 8” ditty bag.

    Minimum battery range:

    • At High Setting, the battery will last almost 2 hours.
    • At Medium Setting, the battery will last about 4 hours.
    • At Low Setting (midway between off and Medium setting) the battery will last 5 hours.
    • Recharge time: about 3 hours.

    Speed control:

    Continuously variable but is marked as follows for reference.
    • High Setting = 100% output
    • Medium Setting = 50% output
    • Midway below Medium and Off (not marked) = 33% output

    2. Electric outboard motor
    There’s a useful buyers guide to Electric outboard motors over 5Kw here and under 5Kw here

    Torqeedo Ultralight 403

    Sold as a trolling motor for Kayaks ( The 1103 a new more powerful version is now available), the advantage for the Weta is that the drive is separate from the battery and connected by cables. This means you can separate the weight of the battery from the engine which is much better for weight distribution and stowing. Weta owner, Glenn Madere installed the mount following the manufacturer’s diagram for an off-center installation (see p. 47 of the Manual) as if his main hull were a kayak, adjusting the vertical “shaft” as far down as it will go. Between this adjustment and keeping crew weight aft and on the motor side, the prop has enough depth to perform well in up to, say, a foot of chop. The battery is said to be good for 1hr of use.

    Torqeedo Travel 503/1003

    503 $1699/ 1003 $1999

    Revised for 2015 the Torqueedo Travel is sold as a replacement for 1.5 HP (503) and 3HP (1003) Engines but this is a misleading comparison, as a 3hp petrol motor will get many small, lightly loaded craft of the right hull form “on the plane”, and a Torqeedo 1003 won’t. The propeller supplied is not even designed for that sort of speed (it’s rated 9kmph at 790W, or about 6 knots flat out). Where the Torqeedo excels is pushing surprisingly heavy loads (when the 3hp petrol wouldn’t get you on the plane anyway) at up-to-displacement speeds. 4 or 5 knots in a typical 9ft inflatable dinghy, for example.

    The acceleration up to those speeds is also impressive, as electric motors (unlike petrol ones) generate full torque from very low revs – there is never a “lag” after twisting the throttle. So the Torqeedo 1003 has lots of low to mid-range push, but not the whizzy top end of a petrol. Unlike “trolling motors” it will be genuinely useful as a main propulsion unit – just not for anything much over 6 knots (12kmph).

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    • On-board computer with GPS-based calculation of remaining range
    • Removable battery and tiller
    • Solar rechargeable – including during the voyage
    • Stepless forward/reverse drive
    • Completely waterproof (IP 67)
    • Integrated battery with 320 Wh Li-Ion
    • Max speed 9-10 km/h (depending on type of boat, wind and waves)
    • Charging time: 7 hrs
    • Remote throttle available

    Speed in knots (km/h) Range in sm (km) Running time in hours
    Slow 2.0 (3.7) 12.8 (23.7) 06:20
    Half throttle 3.0 (5.5) 6.4 (11.9) 02:08
    Full throttle 4.0 (7.4) 2.8 (5.2) 00:42

    ePropulsion Spirit 1.0
    $1930 approx (HQ in Hong Kong, Distributors worldwide)
    New Spirit 1.0 Evo is a portable 3HP electric outboard made for dinghies, fishing boats, and sailboats. It features a 1276Wh large integrated lithium battery for long range. The hydrogeneration function recharges the battery while sailing.

    ePropulsion Spirit 1.0 Evo web page

    • kW: 1.0 • Voltage: 40.7 (nominal) • HP: 3
    • Battery: Integrated • 1.02 kWh • LiPo (lithium-ion-polymer)
    • Running Time: 1 hrs – 4 hrs
    • Shaft Length (cm): (XS): 52.5 • (S): 62.5 • (L): 75
    • Weight (kg): Motor: 11 • Battery: 8.8 (varies with shaft length and/or tiller)
    • Steering: Tiller or Remote, Wireless
    • Other: Hyrdrogeneration. Two year limited warranty. As of May 2019 wireless remote control is available
    • Country of Manufacture: China
    • Price: €1800 – €2136 • $2150 – $2400
    ePropulsion Navy 3.0 Evo web page

    • kW: 3.0 • Voltage: 46.8 (nominal) • HP: 6
    • Battery: Non-Integrated • 3.04 kWh • Li-ion
    • Running Time: 1 hrs – 4 hrs
    • Shaft Length (cm): (S): 64 • (L): 76.5
    • Weight (kg): Motor: 24 • Battery: 31.5 (varies with shaft length and/or tiller)
    • Steering: Tiller or Remote, Wireless
    • Other: Hydrogeneration. Two year limited warranty, one year on battery. Wide variety of accessories available.
    • Country of Manufacture: China
    • Price: €2500-€2600 • $2900 – $3050

     

    3. Petrol (4-stroke) motor

    Super Chibi

    $500 approx

    The Thai-made Super Chibi uses a reliable 1HP Honda Engine (designed for garden tools) mated to a short drive-shaft and neat integrated petrol tank.

    I have seen one used on a Laser (!) which had to sail to yacht racing regulations


    Engine Honda GX 25
    Maximum Power 1.0 HP. @ 7,000 RPM.
    Dimensions L660mm x W210mm
    Cooling System Air
    Driving system Direct Shaft system ,no Clutch
    Gear ratio 1:2
    Displacement Tonnage ~ 200 Kg.
    Propellor 3 Blade made from Nylon -66 Resin
    Fuel tank Capacity 600 cc.
    Weight 5.5 Kg. (Not including installation set)
    Consumption Rate ~ 400 CC./Hr.
    Performance Maximum speed 10 Kmh /5.3 knots
    (depending on load, wind, waves)
    Operation ~ 90 Min

    4. Propane Outboard

    Lehr 2.5

    Price $1000 appprox
    The US-made Lehr runs on propane and the cannisters can add to the overall weight.

    Engine Type Propane-Powered 4 Stroke OHV
    Horsepower Rating 2.5 hp (1.8 kW)
    Displacement 4.39 cu in / 72 cc
    Bore X Stroke 2.12″ x 1.37″ / 54mm x 31.5mm
    Cylinders 1
    Full Throttle RPM Range 4500-5500 RPM
    Ignition System CDI Ignition
    Starting System Manual
    Fuel Propane (110 Octane)
    Carburetion No Choke / No Priming
    Lubrication Wet Sump
    Control System Tiller Handle
    Trim Positions 5
    Gear Shift F-N
    Gear Ratio 2.08
    Shaft Length 15″
    Standard Prop 7.25″ x 6″ 3 Blade Aluminium
    Weight 37.4 lbs / 16.96 kg
    Fuel Tank Type
    On Board Twist ‘n Go 16.4 oz Propane Canister
    Remote (Optional) 11 & 17 lb Composite Tanks
    Recommended Oil 4 Stroke 10W-30
    Engine Oil Capacity 0.37 US qt (0.35L)
    Warranty 3 Year Limited Warranty
    C.A.R.B. Rating 3 Star Ultra Low
    Range 16.4 oz Camping Bottle – @3000RPM – 2.5 hrs, @5000RPM – 1 hr

    5. Weed-wacker conversion

    Some people realised you could get a crude but effective “outboard” by putting a propeller on the end of a string trimmer (aka “weed-whip”, “whipper-snipper”, “weed-whacker”, “weed eater”, “strimmer”).

    There’s now a few conversion kits available that come as a complete unit or you can DIY with a donor unit

    Water Wacker

    Small Outboard Motor – 1.2 HP
    Cost: $250 with a 2-Cycle Motor and $325 with a 4-Cycle Motor
    Conversion Kit – for those who want to do-it-yourself: $100.

    The Kit does not include the weedeater, which can be purchased from your local hardware store. Fabricated from a Straight Shaft – attachment capable (Split Shaft) Weed Eater. Both 2 cycle and 4 cycle units are available.

    Performance: Weight 13.2 lbs
    Speed: Tested with a two person Kayak, West Marine’s Water Tender 9.4, Walker Bay, and a Sevylor Fish Hunter. They all ran between 4.0 to 5.5 Knots loaded with one 165 lbs person, swinger ice chest with 6 pack, fishing pole, tackle box, and oars

    6. Hand Cranked Outboard.
    Originally developed in the 60s, they are now being produced in China and offer a low-tech, quiet propulsion solution – although perhaps oars or a paddle might give you a more efficient method of propulsion for long periods. It might also make be suitable for conversion to power from an electric drill.
    Available in UK (£125.00) Germany (EUR 149), Australia (AU$169) under the Freewheeling brand and the USA ($112) as Bris.
    The bracket does look a bit flimsy and there’s no hinge to allow it to kick up if you hit anything.

    In the video below, it shows how flimsy then turning handle is but also how you can improve it substantially with an electric drill. Another video testing the speed and battery life here.


    Conclusion
    From the options above, you can see that the petrol outboard has the best power to weight ratio and highest top speed – although there are all the issues of pollution, noise and transporting a flammable liquid.

    The electric motors may not have the top speed of a petrol or propane motor so they won’t get you planing – but they produce thrust at very low speeds and can output a steady power for reasonably long periods. The electric motors can be disassembled allowing you to stow components below deck and some can separate the battery entirely from the drive unit using cables for better weight distribution.

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    in reply to: Self Tacking JIb Kit #3862
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    Self Tacking Jib Tips

    If you’re having issues with scratches on the top of the bow from the original all-steel block  which has sharp edges, consider replacing it with the all-plastic RF25109 (standard on new boats) which comes with a Dyneema core lashing.
    NOTE Tie the lashing through the middle of the block as shown – otherwise the block may split apart under load.
    Alternatively, use a 5mm Ronstan Shock (Sheeveless Block) which is lightweight adonised aluminium, cannot fail under load and has rounded edges that won’t scratch. The Dyneema is slippery enough to allow the line to feed through the Shock without causing wear.
    For best security, instead of tying a stop knot in the lashing for the block which can pull through the hole in the deck, knot the lashing under the bow.
    Check the holes in the deck. If you find the lashing is starting to wear a groove in the deck where it exist the holes, consider adding a Deck Bush, like this range from Allen Bros. Available in colourful adonised aluminium, Acetel or Acetel with a stainless steel insert.
    If you have an older boat without the central track support, you may find it helpful to add a pad eye to the deck in front of the track and attach a pair of blocks so the sheets are fed under the track without snagging.
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    in reply to: Car Topping Your Weta #3759
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    Having decided to transport your Weta on the roof of your vehicle, the next question is how do you get it up there without assistance.

    There are side and back slide loading systems which use a winch or electric drill to slide the boat up a track and onto the roof.

    This is the BoatHoist Sidewinder electric boat hoist which includes a 12 volt electric winch with remote control.

    The Rhino-Rack Side Boat Loader is similar product powered by an electric drill but it uses two winch attachment points providing a more even pull when loading.

    There is also the rear mounting system from Mozzi Boat Loaders which uses their own custom trailer/trolley with rear mounted wheels to prevent the boat from grounding at the stern – but it would make the boat nose heavy when moving it on the trolley during launching. It *may* be possible to modify this to use a Weta Trolley with temporary dolly wheels mounted under the stern of the boat during loading/unloading.

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    in reply to: Waterproof phone cases #2352
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    Catalyst Waterproof Phone Case
    If you want to avoid drowning your phone and take decent photos, get the Catalyst Waterproof Case.
    It has an optical glass lens cover (unlike Lifeproof which now has a plastic lens cover which soon becomes opaque) and it is tested for immersion to 10m so you can fully submerge your device in water or cleaning solution without damaging the surface or getting moisture into any of the ports. Drop-proof to 2m and made of scratch-proof polycarbonate, it allows full functionality of the screen, buttons, and cameras and provides unobstructed access to the charging port. Available from Aquagear from AU$95.99 (or US$89.00 from Amazon) for Apple, Google and Samsung phones & tablets.

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    in reply to: Rudder bungee auto kickup system #2322
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    Shallow Steering Mod
    A development of this is to remove the rod but keep the “fork” attached to the top of the rudder foil and wrap it in tape to cushion it.

       

    This enables you to flip the fork down between the foil and stock and prevent the rudder from going down completely so you can steer in shallow water (NOTE – use gradual steering movements with the rudder half down as otherwise you may put undue stress on the stock)

    Once you reach deep water you can flip the fork up out of the way and slide the bungee down the stock to hold the foil in place.

    Flip up Line

    If you need to be able to quickly flip the foil up – when coming in to a beach or ramp for example – you can attach a line to the top of the foil (where the fork is attached) and keep it attached to the tiller using thin bungee. When you need to raise the rudder, just pull the line to flip the rudder up (you may need to slide the bungee part way up the stock first).

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    in reply to: Wanted in Russia #2272
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    These are the updated Russian Weta contacts: Pavel Savchenko
    Ph: +79119295992 (Whatsapp)
    pavel_savchenko@mail.ru

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    I know it’s a bit of a drive but there’s one in the Netherlands which looks like a bargain.

    It may be a 2010 model but it’s been used on fresh water only 12 times and dry stored.
    https://www.yachtingcompany.nl/en/yachts_for_sale/956095/weta/

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    I’d suggest contacting Wets Marine direct and ask – info@wetamarine.com

    You might be able to get one via the dealer in Sweden.

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    There is a dealer in Russia, SportBoatRu

    https://rusyf.ru/news/2984

    in reply to: Spray Top for a Weta #2217
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    Gill Pro Dinghy Smock

    I haven’t used one but I’ve found most of the Gill gear is reasonable quality.

    One of the features I like is the fact that the neck seal is adjustable at the back rather than at the front which can compromise the seal and also irritate the skin. Also the side zip means there’s a better seal.

    • Close fitting PU neck seal for for a watertight s
    • Adjustable Neoprene waistband for a secure and watertight seal
    • Adjustable PU cuffs for watertight comfort
    • 2-layer coated fabric with a durable repellent finish
    • Fully taped seams for a waterproof seal
    • Fabric Composition 100% Nylon

    AU$250 from Gill

    Video features below (although I note that the front zip has now been moved to the side for 2020)

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    in reply to: Weta Twin Tiller Extensions #2188
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    Weta Marine have now produced a Twin Tiller Extension Kit

    The benefit of this kit is that it doesn’t require additional hardware stuck on the boat for the tiller rest to prevent the lazy tiller extension from dragging in the water – the bungee cord holds the tiller on the tramp when not in use and the steel ring slides down the pole when you use it so you have full articulation. It also helps to centre the tiller during the tack.

    The twin tiller extension kit includes:

    • 1 x two piece tiller extension with universal joint (two piece makes shipping by mail possible now!)

    • 2 x stainless steel rings

    • 2m 3mm bungy

    • 1 x Round tiller adapter

    • 2 x 50mmx4mm bolts and nuts

    • 4 x round stoppers

    • New tiller end plug

    Available now through your local dealer.

    TWIN TILLER OVERVIEW

    TWO TILLER EXTENSION BASES BOLTED TOGETHER WITH TWO 50MM X 4MM BOLTS

    END OF BUNGY TIED TO GENNAKER RATCHET BLOCK. BUNGY GOES UNDER TRAMP

    3MM BUNGY TIED TO STAINLESS RING USING PLASTIC BALL ON END OF BUNGY

    HIGH QUALITY CARBON TWO PIECE TILLER EXTENSION

    A SIMPLE DAB OF EPOXY GLUE ON SPIG TO MAKE A PRECISION JOIN

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    Bowsprit Mounts

    Mounting a camera on the bowsprit is a great way of capturing the action on the boat and the smiling faces of the sailors (don’t forget to smile!).

    You need the camera low enough so it doesn’t snag the bottom of the screecher when you gybe, so make sure that the mount and camera have any sharp edges removed or taped over.

    While GoPro mounts are well made, they do tend to make the camera quite high and if you have a 1/4” standard tripod hole on the camera or an adapter, I recommend the Sony Mounts such as the VCT-RBM2 which use a strap to secure it instead of the thumb screws of the GoPro mounts which can catch the furling line.

    Avoid cheap mounts from eBay or the ones from Kaiser Bass or SP Gadgets as, with some exceptions, they don’t use 316 Stainless Steel which means they corrode quickly in seawater.

    If you use a pole, a handlebar mount is usually the right size.

    There are also head mounts available – good for seeing exactly where you’re looking and how much time you spend looking outside the boat.

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    The problem with bolting it through top and bottom is that the bottom bolt and tiller extension may contact the cockpit sides if you have to put the tiller hard over – or more likely the bulge from the ama arm sockets.

    If you attach two tiller extension saddles either side of the tiller and, instead of screwing them in place, use bolts right through the tiller, they can’t hit the deck or cockpit.

    You can unbolt the original single tiller attachment fitting from the top of the tiller using a small spanner to hold the nuts inside the tiller while you unscrew the bolt.

    Tiller drag prevention
    Once you’ve installed your twin tiller system you then have to decide what you do with the loose tiller – you can leave it to drag in the water skiff style – but it may get in the way. Alternatives are:

    1. Use a ring
      Before you add the rubber end fitting to the tiller extension, thread a plastic ring down the tube.
      Then use some thin bungee to attach this to the hiking strap to keep it from falling off the edge of the tramp but allow it to swing forward if you go forward.
    2. Use a rest made from conduit tube
      Tie some conduit tube under the tramp from the forward arm so that it extends at least 20cm from under the stern  ama arm. Ensure the tube is tied so it’s can’t swivel round.
      Add an upright piece of conduit tube to the existing tube at the stern to create the tiller extension rest.
      When you tack you can let go of the old tiller extension and either place it in the rest or let it fall onto the rest which will keep it from dragging in the water.

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